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#1 Posted : 04 September 2013 18:01:56

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With my recent debacle of my zero and considering the actual damage done to it resulting in a restart I decided to review my options for building.

It was clear that the bog standard superglue that I used was effective to a point, but the sheer strength was not. I found that it was possible to pull the thing apart with just normal pressure.

This means to me the following points

1. I did it wrong.
2. I am stronger that I know that I am
3. the glue is just not up to it.
4. I am not up to it and should give up.

After making these points I decided that I should look at just what I may need.

Option 1 welding/TIG kit.

Result: Don't make them small enough! besides, Aluminium melts easily!

Option 2 Rivet the thing together

Result.... we have screw together parts... but trying to use rivets that small? LOL - besides, do they make them that small?

Option 3 glue the thing

Result: Tried that with partial sucess.

Option 4: Ask someone else

Result: Ah ha! now there's a good idea.

So, I duly went online and emailed Loctite Technical services. They are the glue guys and should know more than me. I told them what I was doing and asked what I should use. They emailed me back and said give this a try

Loctite 330 multibond

The word bond, not glue attracted my attention. It seems that this could be the stuff I need to make sure that the frame stays together.

I will give it a try when new parts start turning up!

Anybody else have thoughts????
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#2 Posted : 04 September 2013 18:37:46

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I use Loctie 496 which is a professional superglue made specifically for bonding metal, also use Loctite superglue gel and Zap thin CA.
The three combined work for me..
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#3 Posted : 04 September 2013 19:23:07

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flippin' heck,don't fancy mixin' them three together!!!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL
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BigGrin Hi All
I have been using Zap 'zap-a-gap' but only when needed and in miniscule amounts as I have found so far that after spraying the ribs and fitting together ect they stay in position without moving.
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#5 Posted : 04 September 2013 23:20:32

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Well.

I know that Mr T knows exactly what he is doing (can I have lessons?).

I think that I will try the 330 bond and see what it does!
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#6 Posted : 04 September 2013 23:22:26

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wow Tomick that locktite 496 is expensive... £21 a bottle. Crying
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#7 Posted : 05 September 2013 09:05:37

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Blink Where did you see that price Blink

I buy it trade at a fraction of that cost, and even a quick eBay search throws up £7.12

http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...amp;hash=item2a2685d830
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Thanks for the link Mr T, have bought some.
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#9 Posted : 04 November 2014 13:41:45

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My brother bought me glue when he was out the other day it's called UHU. Anyone no if this is ok to use as it says metal on it but I wanna check first
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#10 Posted : 04 November 2014 15:05:02

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I use the Loctite, a product over here called JB Weld which is an epoxy formulated for metal, and Gorilla Impact Tough (a CA with rubber fibers in it) The use of each is situation based.
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#11 Posted : 04 November 2014 19:35:08

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So should I buy a different one?
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#12 Posted : 04 November 2014 20:07:38

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UHU is quite thick in form and is rubber based i think so it will leave a lumpy mess around the joints and will look unsightly. I have been using medium superglue for my build and have had no problems, just remember to get a good way of applying it spareingly. Here's are a link to give you and idea on applicators,

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#13 Posted : 04 November 2014 21:25:46

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Hi All, BigGrin BigGrin

I`ll add my support to the Loctite 496.BigGrin

Not the cheapest, but is cheapest always best?

I`m building the "Stuka", which has a brass airframe and it works great.

A 20 gram bottle goes an awfully long way as well.

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#14 Posted : 04 November 2014 23:48:04

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S2ksean wrote:
My brother bought me glue when he was out the other day it's called UHU. Anyone no if this is ok to use as it says metal on it but I wanna check first


UHU isn't ideal as its not easy to work with and is very slow bonding. its really a general purpose domestic repair glue you should go for something more purpose formulated.

Zap is my fave brand, as Andy says a medium is probably best. I have used a number of different brands over the years for metal and i have to say the Loctite 496, which is formulated for metal is extremely good and only a couple of quid dearer than Zap. 20g goes a long way.

as for applicators you can get specie;its applicators these days but i still use a piece of wire in a pin vice.

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#15 Posted : 05 November 2014 13:00:30

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Brilliant thanks guy really appreciate it. Il order some today and hopefully make a start soon
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