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#21 Posted : 20 November 2020 21:56:19

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Now this is really interesting.

I thought (wrongly) you had yourself a plastic kit to build. Never realised it was one of the card kits.

And your take on converting it to wood is really interesting.

I hope you get on really well with your build and i will be eagerly following along to see how you get on.

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#22 Posted : 21 November 2020 20:11:25

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huge scaleBlink this is going to be something to followBigGrin great startBigGrin

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#23 Posted : 21 November 2020 23:49:34

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She's really starting to take shape now, looking good Budgie....Cool Cool

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#24 Posted : 22 November 2020 10:37:03

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BigGrin Morning Folks
Thanks for popping' in and taking the time to comment

Starting to glue the frames to the keel

As the frames go into the keel from the bottom.....
I applied the glue liberally and brushed into the joins

Too lazy to remove from jig apply glue to keel and frame then try and get everything back Bored into the jig again

Made a start on the lower frame supports ...following as per CARD build

These were made out of 3mm mdf instead of 2mm

This should offer more area to glue the "planking" or "inner skin" between the frames then sand flush with the frames
Well thats the planCrying
Also 3mm mdf is cheaper than 2mmLOL Flapper LOL
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#25 Posted : 26 November 2020 22:54:10

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Hi Budgie, you've done a great job on transferring the paper templates to wood. Very neat and great progress!Cool

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#26 Posted : 26 November 2020 22:57:53

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That is moving along very nicely.

I am finding this build very interesting and look forward to your next update.

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#27 Posted : 27 November 2020 16:54:47

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BigGrin Hi Folks
Just a wee update of progress so far

Still doing the supports for the bottom frames, and to help break the monotony glueing the upper frames in place

The decks are not glued as still to remove the card templates, they were slid into place to keep the frames squarish

Talking off breaks ..Crying I broke the pointy bit of one of the decks at the bow but not concerned as will be filling that area

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#28 Posted : 27 November 2020 17:33:36

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That is looking very nice. Great work.Drool Drool

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#29 Posted : 28 November 2020 15:02:09

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BigGrin Afternoon Folks

Started planking in between the lower frames using 3mm thick strips

As these will be covered with an outer skin or planking I just cut strips from the A3 size mdf sheet

These planks will eventually be sanded flush with the frames

The decks are still not glued in place they are to help keep everything tidily boo especially when out of the jig

She was removed from the jig to add the planks then put back in the jig when taking a break

I was Blink thinking Bored about using the templates as per a card build for the outer skin...
by using styrene

I think it is a good idea IF I can get the styrene to stick to the hull

Has anybody tried this and if so what glue would you recommend

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#30 Posted : 28 November 2020 21:25:03

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BigGrin Evenin' Folks
progressing slowly Cursing but quicker than trying to see pics of other build diariesCursing

Very frustrating

Anyhoos pics of progress if u can see em


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#31 Posted : 28 November 2020 21:59:06

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Hi there Budgie!

She's coming on beautifully! (And big!)BigGrin
Eventually, one day in the future sometime (timing is non-committal as yet)Blink I will be using styrene sheet on my own card model ship conversions but as I'll be using plasticard for the ribs and structure as well, it'll just be the normal 'welding' type liquid poly glues for mine. I don't think there's any way to weld the plastic sheet to MDF, it would have to be one of the contact adhesives I think, probably one of the 'Evostick' family. The only problem then of course is that its an instant grab application so you'll have to be dead on target first time with no 'wiggle room'!
The hull sides and superstructure should be fairly straightforward but you might need to heat or warm up the styrene to pre-form it to the bow and stern curves (unless the sheet is really thin and flexible).
The best of luck with your solutions anyway, (and yes, I will be pinching them for mine in the future!)Flapper

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#32 Posted : 28 November 2020 22:49:21

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It did take a good few refreshes b3fore your pictures appeared but got therein the end and your build looks good.

Not sure if the following “WikiHow” might be of interest as it gives some suggestions on gluing plastic to wood.

https://www.wikihow.com/Adhere-Plastic-to-Wood

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#33 Posted : 29 November 2020 16:33:12

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This is looking really good. Cool Love Cool

The size is amazing and I`m looking forward to the future updates.

Well done so far.


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#34 Posted : 29 November 2020 16:38:46

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BigGrin Hi Folks
Thanks for replying Robin and Tony appreciated

Sounds like I will have to experiment Crying with contact glue which I have not used before if I decide to use styrene for the outer skin

Anyhoos got some more of the hull "planks" done but after a couple of hours started to get fed up

Tried to fight the urge to see what she will look like after a bit of sanding and lostLOL

Sanded the "planks" that I did yesterday as the glue will have set on those

The dark patchy line is glue mixed with sawdust still a bit damp
Have not sanded down to the actual frames just yet (red marker pen) that will get done once the lower hull has been fully planked and sanded

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#35 Posted : 29 November 2020 17:04:49

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Hi again Tony!

Just had a thought, whilst you are experimenting, I wonder what a few coats of the epoxy resin used in fibre-glassing would be like if that was brushed over the mdf and sanded smooth once cured? That should bond to the mdf ok and if thick enough could also have panel lines inscribed too.

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