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#1 Posted : 20 September 2021 20:59:10

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If I remember correctly there was a member on here that did sky gazing, I’m thinking of looking at buying a beginners telescope to do some star gazing at night and was just looking for some help.

I’m not sure if this is something I’ll really like to do but I would like to see how I get on, so I’m looking for beginners guide on a entry level telescope say around £100.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. BigGrin BigGrin
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#2 Posted : 21 September 2021 17:57:57

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Hi Mustang!

I've 'dabbled' in astronomy for many years. I started with a Tasco 114mm (4.5 inch) Newtonian reflector and then up-graded to an Orion Optics (UK) 150mm (6 inch) Newtonian which I've had for nearly 35 years now! Its great for exploring the moon and will allow me to view the rings of Saturn and the belts and moons of Jupiter. I suspect that if I didn't have astigmatism the views would be even better!
If you are looking to just have a try, have a look at ebay item 194365526631 its smaller than mine but would give you a good idea of what to expect and is pretty cheap (in price). Orion, Meade and Celestron are all very good makes.
My dream one day is to have one of these mounts that you just switch on and it does everything for you - locates your position by gps, automatically goes to what you want to look at and tracks it through the night! Those are pretty pricey but telescopes in general have come down a heck of a lot since I bought mine, almost half the cost!
Best of luck (and clear skies!)

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#3 Posted : 22 September 2021 11:16:28

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I bought a used 6" Skywatcher telescope of ebay for around the equivalent of 100 pounds.

Had a great time with it. Bought some adapters so I could connect my DSLR camera. Takes awesome moon photos.

But for Planet photos though, I think I need to go to the next level.





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Here was my basic setup.

6" skywatcher telescope. Canon 70D DSLR mounted directly to telescope. Old laptop running Canon supplied software so that I can see the image on the screen and can take the photo without touching the telescope - simples. No fancy azimuth drives, just manual handling / swiveling.

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#5 Posted : 22 September 2021 20:44:19

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Thanks Robin for the info gives me something to think about I was looking at a Celestron or Meade telescope.


Thanks Simon
Blink Blink WOW that’s some photo of the moon Blink Blink hum know I’ll add the sky watcher to my list to look at, I like the idea of adding the camera I have a canon D350

Cheers guys for the info.
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Hi Guys,

I found these on eBay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i...781b:g:NYgAAOSwfuZhP4Yc

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i...23d4:g:T1kAAOSwsXRhLlNS

What do you think.
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#7 Posted : 23 September 2021 19:05:50

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Hi Mustang!
Sorry not to get back earlier, I tried last night but my darned laptop just won't accept my log in details for some reason!
Had a look at the two telescopes, of the two (providing the seller re-lists it again) I would go for the first one without the digital guider. A 'goto' scope is brilliant, I've got a small Konus goto scope of about 4 inches or so but they can be exasperating to get up and running some times and especially for a complete beginner. (I'll have to try mine again soon now that I've got varifocal glasses - having to change from seeing glasses to look through the eyepiece to reading glasses to read the instruction manual is enough to put you off astronomy for life!)Cursing
The manual scope has an equatorial mount very similar to my Orion Europa and for back garden observing that's all you need to begin with. I updated mine with a battery powered add on motor to drive the tracking so that the object you are looking at stays in the view without having to constantly tweak the bendy arms which move the scope. Even that I didn't get until after years of manual viewing!
The beauty of the reflector on a ring cradle like that one is that if the eye piece ends up in an awkward position when the telescope is pointing at the object (the mounting has to point north to begin with) you can loosen off the clamps and rotate the entire tube around inside the cradle to get the perfect position!Cool
I would start off with one like your first choice and if you enjoy it either sell on and get a better one or add bits on to this one to up grade it. The number of eyepieces it comes with is also a great buy - they can be almost as expensive as the scope. In the future you could always get a goto mount to fit the telescope tube onto as a cheaper alternative to the entire set up in one go.
Hope this helps!

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I do a lot of star gazing and astrophotography.As a beginner I would recommend the stargazer newtonian reflector.It will be fine for seeing the planets and start clusters and some of the brighter galaxies and nebulas.I would warn you that the galaxies and nebula wont look like the beautiful color images you see on TV.they will look like faint grey smudges in the sky.you need to do astrophotography to get those beautiful images and that require a major financial expenditure. I agree that I would avoid the scope with the electronic finder.They are a pain to set up.

Both of the scopes you listed come with equatorial mounts.these are a bit complicated to assemble and use for beginners.the benefit of this mount is that when you set it up right it follows the rotation of the earth.this is essential if you are do0ing long exposure astrophotography, but for simple viewing you could also use a scope with an ALT/AZ mount.these ar emuch simpler to set up.

This scope is actually quite nice for a beginner and pretty cheap and it has an alt az mount..

https://www.highpointsci...fJrenznBsxoCQSEQAvD_BwE

you will beable to see the rings of Saturn, Jupiters great spot, the polar ice caps of maps and several of Jupiters moons.You will also be able to see some of the brighter start lcusters liekM13 and the double cluster and thye do look amazing through an eyepiece and some of the brighter galaxies lie Andromeda-but they will only appear as faint grey smudges.

I would recommend avoiding the unknown branded socpes.they usually have terrible optics and crappy mounts. Stay with sky watcher, Celestron or Meade.

My final recommendation is if you enjoy your star gazing get some good Plossl eyepieces.The ones that come with the scope are usually cheap and crappy, but if you spend a bit of cash on a good 10mm or 25 mm plossol you will be amazed how much brighter and sharper the view is.


The best online forum IME is the cloudynights forum.They are tosn of really helpful people on there to guide you.



my first scope was a celstron newtonian and then I bought a celestron c8 with the autofinder.I then graduated to a celestron c11 on a paramount MX mount and htis is the set up I use for long exposure astrophotograph and planetary imaging.I can post some pics if you are interested in what kind of images you can take with a set up like this.
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Hi derby would love to see what you can take please.

I think I’ll look at the one you said Celestron FirstScope 76 mm found one on eBay for £50

Then I can see how I get on and then if I get the bug look at bigger ones.
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#12 Posted : 18 October 2021 23:08:12

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Love Drool Love

Wow love those photos Love Love

I still haven't got mine yet, but will soon hopefully..
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While we’re on stars and stuff, I spent the last two weeks camping on the river. Took some night shots with the trusty old DSLR.

Just simple 30 second exposures. ISO 3200 @f5. Trees were lit with either campfire or torchlight.



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#14 Posted : 19 October 2021 10:50:33

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Some excellent astrophotography there Carl and Simon, very impressive from both of you. Nice shots of the Milky Way there Simon. Carl, I particularly like your photo of the Horsehead Nebula!

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