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aescleahs
#1 Posted : 14 April 2013 13:03:48

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Out of curiosity, could somebody furnish me with a list of bits n bobs we will need for this build? IE glues/epoxy tools etc etc
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Thats a good question!!BigGrin I think Tomick would be the best person to ask.BigGrin
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Hello Aescleahs,

Just going on what has been posted in the first part of the 'Official Build Diary' I'd say you could start by getting one or two good quality 'Philips' type Screwdriver in a couple of different sizes and some Epoxy glue? A set of Modellers or Jewellers needle files would also be useful as there will surely be some seams to clean up on the brass castings and maybe some 'Wet & Dry' sheets of sandpaper in various grades? Hard for anybody to say yet as nobody has started building it yet - apart from Tomick!!

I haven't checked properly but I would guess the screwdriver is a size '00' so check first before buying if you need to in case I'm wrong! The Epoxy glue would be a 'Slow' curing type as you need to give yourself time to position/rotate some of the parts by the look of it?

As Daran has said, best just to check with Tomick - he would be the one best placed to advise on this?


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#4 Posted : 14 April 2013 14:36:52

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Would look like some wire cuttrs and files would be a good idea too....
Cheers for the replues :)
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#5 Posted : 14 April 2013 16:14:57

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Tool requirements are noted in the instructions, but here goes for the first 8 parts sets:

Wire cutters

Slow and fast cure Epoxy

Superglue (suggest a Gel and a medium viscocity types)

00 Philips screwdriver

400/800 grit Emery paper

Tweezers

Needle file assortment

Mini clamps/Bulldog clips

Contact adhesive (such as 'Evostik Timebond' as it is an adjustable contact adhesive).

No soldering required, but the experienced modeller may wish to consider this option for some of the assembly.

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#6 Posted : 14 April 2013 16:34:53

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I quite fancy the idea of doing some soldering on the brass bits, there's just something quite satisfying about it when it's done right??

Not that I'm any good at it, so I think I need some practice first!! Blink Blink


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You'll need a very high wattage iron, the large parts will soak up the heat like a sponge, and also a good brass flux/solder
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I think I will stick with glue!!!!LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Use a chefs blow lamp to provide the heat,just keep the flame moving rather that concentrating the heat in one area which will cause distortion.
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Tomick wrote:
You'll need a very high wattage iron, the large parts will soak up the heat like a sponge, and also a good brass flux/solder


Hi Tom,

Does it need to be done with an Iron? I had this idea in my head of using a mini flame torch of the 'Gaz' canister type? Kind of how plumbers solder copper pipes together? Or would that cause any problems?

Sorry if that's a stupid idea, but never soldered a model together before!! Blushing Blink LOL


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It may discolour and distort the plate parts, and if you intend to have an unpainted brass finish, then the silver will be visible, which depending on how neat you are with applying the solder and flux, it could look awful, and be something you wish you had not started.
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Thanks for that Tom and that was my main concern really, not that I would be worried about it discolouring the metal as I intend to paint mine, but the possibility of distortion is obviously something that should be avoided if possible!! I wasn't particularly considering solder for any large plates anyway, more for soldering pipes into unions, that sort of thing?

I suppose it's just as easy to use the appropriate glues really, so maybe I'll do just that! Cool ThumpUp

Thanks!! BigGrin


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#13 Posted : 14 April 2013 21:52:35

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Hi Kev.

You might be interested in this handy little tool from Maplins. Its a micro flame tool similar to the chef's gas burner but with a much smaller and more intense flame. It's powered by a simple disposable gas lighter and should be much cheaper than the bigger chef's version (not sure how much it is today, like most of my Maplin tools I get them when I receive their special offer emails and leaflets!)Blushing
I used this one on my Vic to melt the solder into a brass channel to produce the curved head rail timbers, you can just see the flame it produces on one of my diary pages.

Hope this helps

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An etching primer is a good idea too..
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If your painting then an etch primer is a must!! BigGrin BigGrin
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