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Santìsima Trinidad by Jack.Aubrey - De Agostini - Scale 1:90 - Cross Section Options
jack.aubrey
#1 Posted : 19 August 2014 21:41:16

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On May 3, 2009 I officially started to build the Santìsima Trinidad's Cross Section.
 
It is the second part of the De Agostini collection made up of 160 weekly issues in which you build A) the entire model and later B) the Cross Section.
It seemed me quite simple to build and I thought to follow with due diligence the kit instructions. This was my first cross section and I didn't want to take any risks. 
 
In that period of time I had another project still active: the Armed Launch 1803 by Panart and it was in concurrence with this one. 
I published the images of the finished model of the armed launch on the gallery here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/210-armed-launch-1803/

At that time I didn't have a workshop where to progress my models so I was working at home, on the kitchen table . . each time i started something I had to put out everything and at the end put away everything . . heartrending !!
 
That's all for now, cheers, Jack.Aubrey.
 
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#2 Posted : 19 August 2014 21:44:27

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First of all I needed a basement that allowed me to mount perfectly aligned the two frames. I built the one shown in the first two images.
 
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Here below you can see how it should work. The frames and the keel are simply positioned, not yet permanently.
 
Kind regards, Jack.Aubrey
 
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PS: For this project I decided to use the aliphatic glue, instead of the vinyl.
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#3 Posted : 19 August 2014 21:46:47

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Additional images showing the frames installed on the basement from other views. Now its time to glue them . . 
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050520.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050521.jpg

 
See you next time. Jack.Aubrey
 
PS: my first experience with the aliphatic glue is positive. It works in a very similar way of the vinyl and it is quite fast to grip and dry. I slightly changed the basement. As soon as possible I will show these few changes . .
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#4 Posted : 20 August 2014 10:07:29

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May 5, 2009
 
The crop of the keel distributed with the kit was not right, so I made a new one; on it I have fixed the two frames.
 
Then I started to plank the inside of the hull, using pieces of mahogany of 5x2mm.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050523.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050524.jpg

 
Here below the "phantom" of this model without the basement used to mount it. It's very weak, in a particular way in the upper part. It must be managed carefully, at least until the internal and external planking will reach the right position to ensure enough strength.
 
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That's all, see you next time, Jack.
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#5 Posted : 20 August 2014 10:10:23

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May 6th, 2009 - further small advancements
 
First let me speak about the changes I had to do on the basement. This because I discovered it was not possible to remove the model once I installed some pieces of the inside planking. 
 
By difference with other images you can sort out the changes I made: this changes allow me to extract the model when I want.
 
Now let's see the new things: I have built the woodden block where the main mast will stay, after I started to install the outside planking, starting from the bottom near the keel upwards. At this point there are seven planks installed outside. This task was done with the model extracted from its base.
 
Last I have finished the planking inside the hull reaching the first deck, the hold.
 
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See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Jack

very nice updates on your cross section build. Your building jig is very well thought out.

Happy modelling

Tony
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#7 Posted : 20 August 2014 13:13:59

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Nice to see you on another build Jack, if it's anything like your Soleil i know you will do a fantastic job and i'm looking forward to it.
Cheers
Paul
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#8 Posted : 20 August 2014 13:54:21

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Hi Paul,
Nice start thank you for posting.

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#9 Posted : 20 August 2014 15:27:34

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Very nice indeed Jack, will be following all the way and am sure it will be just as fab as your Soliel.....Cool Cool

Regards

Alan
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#10 Posted : 20 August 2014 15:28:21

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birdaj2 wrote:
Jack
very nice updates on your cross section build. Your building jig is very well thought out.
Happy modelling.
Tony

Hi Tony.
The building jig here presented, in the real practice, wasn't good enough and later I built a second version, thanks also to this first experience. You will discover it in the next posts . .

Gibbo wrote:
Nice to see you on another build Jack, if it's anything like your Soleil i know you will do a fantastic job and i'm looking forward to it.
Cheers
Paul

Hi Paul.
This model is earlier than Soleil Royal and was my first experience with a cross section.

tf64 wrote:
Hi Paul,
Nice start thank you for posting.
Regards
Trev.

Gandale wrote:
Very nice indeed Jack, will be following all the way and am sure it will be just as fab as your Soliel.....Cool Cool
Regards
Alan

Thank you, Trev and Alan, for your appreciatons . .

Cheers Jack.


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#11 Posted : 20 August 2014 20:09:06

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Friday May 8th, 2009
 
I definitely use the kitchen to build this model. It is a bright room and generally I work just after lunch. My wife is happy because I help her to clear the table and I'm happy because she is happy . .
 
Let's start with the first image where there are two products: on the left side the aliphatic glue I'm using and on the right a new entry, at least in this project. It is an oil for wood, available clear and also coloured. I use the clear one instead of the various kinds of enamels, wood fillers, acrilic, poliurethane and so on.  
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050534.jpg

 
To apply this oil I use a brush of medium size and, when it is absorbed by the wood (+/- after 1 day) it is perfectly dry and matt. I think it is a real alternative to painting.
It is obvious that the surfaces must be properly prepared with sandpaper and removing traces of glue that may interfere with the oil absorbment. The result from its usage is that the wood takes a very nice, natural colour. This happens in a particolar way on dark woods but I used it also on fair woods, like beechwood or boxwood.
 
The main advantage by using this oil is that the pores of the wood are not closed and you can use the aliphatic or the vinyl glue after its usage without any kind of problems. And this is a great thing . . 
 
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I have added some few planks on the external side, now it is at the same level of the internal planking . .
I have also installed, following the instructions, a third beam.
Now I'm working to prepare the hold deck.
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Two additional images to better appreciate the chromatic result of applying this oil . .
 
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See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Hello Jack,
That is a great result with the oils thank you for posting.

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#14 Posted : 21 August 2014 09:49:12

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Sunday May 10th, 2009
 
Now it's time to further continue this modelwork by building its first deck, the lowest of this ship. The raw pieces are 1) a precutted ply representing this deck and 2) same strips of fair wood 3x1mm. 
 
For the deck planking I have selected a pattern that will repeat every three stripes. At the end I leveled the deck with sandpaper. The colour of these stripes of wood, provided by the kit manufacturer, is really "random" . . I installed them without regarding to their colour and the result is not the maximum . .
 
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Before mounting the deck above the three beams already in place, i decided to reproduce a more realistic situation below the planking. The real things were not so simple as proposed by the kit.
The result of this "customization" can be seen here below . .
 
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04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050544.jpg

 
On Monday 11th I have also definitely installed this deck in place . . 
 
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Cheers. Jack.Aubrey
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#15 Posted : 21 August 2014 09:52:00

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Monday May 11th, 2009
 
New additional images, with more details about the deck viewed from the bottom side. The colour difference is very evident, but I think that, later, there will be a lot of things (packages, barrel and something else) on this deck that will probably hide this problem, or, at least, will decrease its visual impact. Anyway, wood is wood and the nature plays its role also on the colour of the same wood . . 
 
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What I like much is the work on the lower part of the deck, simulating more realistically the deck beams. These last four images show these little customizations . .
A view from the poop side . . . 
 
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And from the bow side . . .
 
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A partial attempt to take a macro . . .
 
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And last a more traditional view . . .
 
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That's all for today, now I will go further with the next deck. Cheers,  Jack.Aubrey
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Jack

Your use of that wood oil product was a very good choice as it really does bring out the colour of the wood extremely well.

Interesting as well that it dries so well as I know some sorts of oil do leave an oily finish without properly drying.

Happy modelling

Tony
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#17 Posted : 21 August 2014 16:55:11

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Tuesday May 12th, 2009
 
As anticipated I started to work for the second deck . . more precisely the lower gun deck, where the thirty 36 pdr guns were located. At Traflagar these guns were thirty-four.
 
Here below the visual documentation of the work done: the planking of the internal side above the hold and the first two beams of the lower deck.
 
Is is also possible to notice that I have temporarily applied some reinforcements to the frames . . they are very weak and i am afraid to break them. I used the cyan acrilate glue that is easier to detach than other glues. 
 
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03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050553.jpg

 
Again two new attempts of macros . . I decided to learn how to use the manual focusing, looking at the results . . 
 
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See you next time. Kind regards by Jack.Aubrey
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#18 Posted : 21 August 2014 17:00:14

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Wednesday May 13th, 2009
 
Now that I have reached the level of the lower gun deck beams, in the internal side, I can proceed also on the external side by installing there the same 5x2mm mahogany stripes on each side.
 
But, instead of speaking about this work, very easy to do, this message is aimed to highlight to important points:

  • Again, the nice appearance of the wood after the application of the oil. in addition I have discovered another important added value by using it: in general, if you do not remove well the glue, the paint and also the oil finds difficult to locate its right way between the pores and you can easily see that the colour is different comparing to that of a clean area. But, and these are the good news, I discovered that after some days, this oil finds another way to soak the wood, below the surface of the glue, and the result is that the colour becomes equal everywhere. 

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  • The second point is that my basement must be rebuilt in a different way, If you look at the following image you will understand why. As result of applying the external planking, it is now too narrow and the hull cannot enter entirely in it . . I need to rebuild it with a different method, and I'm confident that my first experience will greatly help to achieve a good result.

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See you next time. Kind regards, Jack.Aubrey
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Wednesday June 3rd, 2009 - Lower gun deck
 
Today I started to work to build the lower gun deck. First I had to plank the preshaped ply with the supplied stripes of fair wood 3x1mm. And here rised the same problem: the different colour of these strips. This time I decided to concentrate the darker ones at the extremities of the deck in a symmetrical way. The following images show the result.
 
This problem is recurring with this kind of kits. The fact that pieces of the same wood are sent in different issues, instead of all together, exposes to the risk of great dissimilarities in colour and something else.  
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050664.jpg

 
Again the "customization" of the lower side of the deck, same concept used for the hold. At the end of the planned work, about 6 hours divided in 3/4 sessions, I applied a coat of oil and let him to dry before continue.
 
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Next I built this kind of hanged loft, described in the building instructions. I don't know the nautical term. The image shows the piece much greater than reality.
 
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In the next message I will describe with texture and images the new work done. Regards, Jack.Aubrey.
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Friday June 5th, 2009
 
In a couple of short sessions I have prepared and painted the pillars that support the beams of the hold and the lower gun deck.
The first image here below completes the last one of the previous message, showing the "loft" in a capsized position.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050676.jpg

 
Next four images show the gun deck installed in place and some views of the whole, painted pillars included.
 
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03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050669.jpg

 
To highlight the "admiralty" simulation of the beams visible below the decks.
 
04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1050670.jpg

 
Here below the pillars are not yet installed because I need first to install the "loft". Anyway they are ready.
 
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That's all, see you next time, Jack.
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