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Santìsima Trinidad by Jack.Aubrey - De Agostini - Scale 1:90 - Cross Section Options
jack.aubrey
#81 Posted : 13 October 2014 11:58:34

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Thanks to Tony and Gibbo . . I'm glad you like it !!



May 25th, 2011 - ropes and gunport lids
 
I finished to apply into the "belly" of the ship various reels of hawser. I made a relative positive experience with their preparation, with different sizes and shapes. I don't have images to show because I decided there is no need to bore you with similar, already published, photoes. But the realism, with these new components is becoming greater.   
 
The other work I undertook was the building of the gunport lids. I anticipated my decision to discard the metal frames supplied with the kit and to build them from scratch. And this is what I've done. Now they are ready to be installed in place, but I would like to spend some words to explain how I built them.
 
The main elements used to build the lids are the following:

  • square piece of plywood 13 x 13mm, 1mm thickness
  • square piece of plywood 10 x 10mm, 1,5mm thickness; it is glued in the middle of the previous element
  • two copper joints, arrow shaped, to fix on the external side of the lid.
  • copper ringbolt, 0,75mm diameter for the gunport lid opening/closing
  • a small piece of rope starting from the ringbolt and that will be inserted into a bore above the gunport, simulating the rope used to open and close the gunport.  

 
Now I have to decide the proper moment to fix these lids to the hull . . the main concern is to identify the less risky moment to fix them.
 
As soon as possible I will update this log. Cheers, Jack.
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#82 Posted : 13 October 2014 12:00:01

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May 26th, 2011 - Ropes and reels
 
Here below four images showing the reels of hawser installed onto the lowest decks. First two images show the model as visible from the prow and the remaining from the poop . . 
 
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#83 Posted : 13 October 2014 12:05:58

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birdaj2 wrote:
. . Will be interested in seeing your display case for this one. It certainly needs one to keep all that fantastic detail from dust.

You need to be patient, I'll explain everything at the proper time, but, exceptionally for you, here is an anticipation of the final result . .



Regards, Jack.Aubrey.
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#84 Posted : 18 October 2014 10:10:48

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May 26th, 2011 - Gun port lids
 
As I wrote yesterday, I built the gun port lids. I explained quite in detail the building process some messages ago. I had only to decide WHEN to apply them to the model and, obviously I had few arguments to think about to quickly decide to install them immediately !!
 
They are now definitely fixed in place and now there is only to insert the ropes into the holes bored in the hull and fix them with some glue to finish.
 
Here below some images of these details. First two are from the right side, the other from the left.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070604.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070609.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070606.jpg


04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070607.jpg

 
Its useless to write I'm very satisfied of this achievement, being it my first experience to build these elements. It will also be a very useful experience when I will resume another model, the San Juan Nepomuceno.
But they will not be only 12, they are 74 or more !
 
See you next time, Jack.
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#85 Posted : 18 October 2014 10:13:35

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May 28th, 2011
 
Two images of a series of ten I shot recently. Here below in foreground are shown the two stepladders that make in communication the upper gun deck with the quarterdeck
 
I'd like to enrich these ladders with some additional details, such as handrails, details that 99% were in place on the real ship. I need to identify something useful for this feature.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070596.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070597.jpg

 
Yesterday afternoon I started to prepare the chain plates with their deadeyes. Again I didn't follow the instructions and instead of the brass chains supplied in the kit I used different materials. I will show more in the next messages.
 
Cheers. jack.Aubrey
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#86 Posted : 21 October 2014 09:30:09

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Saturday June 4th, 2011
 
Having completed the hull with the installation of the gunport lids and later the chainplates, I started to prepare some components of the main mast. For this kind of activity I have to underline that my last, complete experience was made a lot of years ago, maybe 40/45 years ago when I was much younger.
 
To be well prepared to this new venture I spent some hours to study the masting & rigging plans supplied by De Agostini. These plans are the only real plans supplied by the kit manufacturer. Other plans (hull, decks, etc) are never supplied with this kind of collections and this fact is, for me, the main point of weakness of these products. The first impression is that these plans are quite simplified, if compared with some "holy" books describing masting and rigging, but you have to admit that a section has by definition an incomplete rigging . .    
 
For this main reason and to avoid risks, I decided to follow the plans supplied, without changes or updates for new details.
 
First I started by building the yards, task that I considered free of risks to make errors. The yards are four in total of different diameter and length. The result, visible here below, was obtained without power tools: only files, sandpaper, sanding block, broken pieces of glass . .
 
Here below an image of the first three yards; the main yard is still missing and I will do it next . . in the meantime I will continue my studies of the rigging plan . .
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070621.jpg

 
Here below other details of the hull. With the exclusion of the handrails for the stepladders, it can be considered 100% finished. The mast can be inserted in its final place without any kind of effort and . . miracle . . it is 100% vertical and straight, properties not always easy to find in a wood rod of 12mm diameter and with an overall length of +/- 50 cm. 
 
02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070617.jpg

 
Here are finally visible the chainplates. I did not want to use the brass chains suggested in the instruction but I was not able to built then as they should be really done. This because my poor ability to weld. At the end I adopted the solution you can see here. Surely quite original . . but plausible ? I am not sure, I leave to you to judge . . surely very strong. 
 
03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070613.jpg


04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070616.jpg

 
And finally I've found something that could be used to build the handrails. Again I found what I believe can be used in my "old pieces stock" and, if I well remember they should age +/- 40 years. As soon as possible I will install them and I will show to you.
 
See you next time, Jack.Aubrey.
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#87 Posted : 25 October 2014 08:44:32

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Sunday June 5th, 2011
 
Yesterday afternoon I have installed the handrails I anticipated in the previous message. They are 15mm. long and are quite plausible. I think it is necessary to keep in mind that on the real ship these details will be probably removed during the clearing activities before a gunfight. As soon as possible I will show the images of these details: I like them and I think to expand their usage to other areas.
 
Here below other images of the model as it was yesterday.
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070619.jpg


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#88 Posted : 25 October 2014 08:47:39

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Tuesday June 7th, 2011 - Last details on the hull
 
As I anticipated in my last message, yesterday I made the last additions to the hull:
 
- I completed the painting of the chain plates and the deadeyes
 
- I have mounted the handrails to the stepladders and also in another location I think these elements were probably in place, although the instructions did not mention them.
 
- last I built the last, bigger yard.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070622.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070623.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070624.jpg


04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070625.jpg

 
Now I'm concentrated on the masting; it is one of the last main tasks to achieve before completing the model. See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Excellent work Jack, look forward with anticipation to your progress.

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Simple stunning work and thanks for posting the picture of your room with the model in its case - really looks very cool Cool indeed. Neat and tidy - brilliant.

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#91 Posted : 26 October 2014 15:12:37

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Monday July 4th, 2011 - Main Mast
 
It is nearly past a month from my last update and now I have something new to show. I had a lot of things to do not related to ship modeling and for this reason please don't expect too much . . 
 
In summary, having finished all the activities planned for the hull, I started to prepare the single components of the main mast, four yards, lower mast, top mast, topgallant mast, main top, cross-tree and to assemply them.
 
My last experience of this kind belongs to more than 40 years ago, so I decided to follow without significant changes the instructions and expecially the plans supplied by De Agostini. But these sources are quite simplified: first all the rigging to and from the other masts is not present, and this has its own logic, but there is also a lot of masting and rigging details not reported on these plans. 
 
To shape the yards and the masts I didn't use any power tool (i.e a lathe) but I made them using broken pieces of glass, sandpaper and sanding blocks: some fitness can be done also during shipmodeling !! Something was already shown some message ago.
 
But the first important task was to build the main top. Here below it is possible to watch this elemnt from different perspectives. But I didn't use the supplied materials and I built it from scratch exactly as the top was built on the english vessels (I don't have documentation for spanish ships), even though a bit simplified. The black paint hides totally the big work done . . but for me it is imporant to know how it is built . . 
Now the main top is fixed only to the lower mast, while the top mast and the cap are not yet mounted.
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070634.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070636.jpg


04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070642.jpg

 
In a future message I will show better images of the lower mast and the top mast.
Cheers, Jack.Aubrey
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#92 Posted : 28 October 2014 13:44:35

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July 12th, 2011
 
I'm back from a very short holiday in Tuscany.
 
Here below I'm adding three images of other elements of the mast. In the first a detali of the lower mast. I decided to paint it with a pale yellow instead of leaving it in natural wood: in that period the masts usually were coloured in yellow and black. Yards were black.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070635.jpg

 
Here another image of the mast with other elements. They are here presented in place but not yet fixed. For the top mast I had to use another piece of wood because the one supplied by De Agostini was too much bent. On top there is the cross-tree. the topgallant mast is till missing.
 
02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070641.jpg

 
Here a detail of the cross-tree. It is a metal die cast piece and I have applied a coat of primer before the final paint same to the main top.
 
03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070630.jpg

 
I have seen an image from another modeler that inspired me the kind of presentation for this model. Unfortunately I have lost the image and I can't show it. Having seen the features of this display case, I think that the basic idea to hang the whole (display case with the model inside) at a wall as a normal picture is very good.
 
See you next time, cheers, Jack.Aubrey.
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#93 Posted : 28 October 2014 13:46:18

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July 16th, 2011
 
The next four images show the four yards of the main mast. They are still far to be finished . . 
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070638.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070639.jpg


04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070640.jpg

 
Now I'm preparing the last missing element of the mast, the topgallant mast. Then I will fix definitely all the elements together. That's all for now, cheers, Jack.Aubrey
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#94 Posted : 01 November 2014 22:01:01

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Thursday July 28th, 2011 - Yards
 
It is nearly past two weeks from my previous message. I wrote very little things but I worked a lot for the masts and the yards. These tasks take a lot of time and patience and often you don't see big progresses.
 
The two large yards, just layed above the main top:

01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070699.jpg

 
The remaiing smaller yards layed above the hull, not 100% complete:

02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070700.jpg

 
A couple of overall views where it's possible to see the topgallant mast, till now ever shown:

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04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070702.jpg

 
A last thing: yesterday I have prepared the plans for the display case and in the next days I will buy the materials needed and probably I will start to build it. By doing this case, I believe I will enjoy a lot . . Kind regards, Jack.Aubrey
 
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To integrate the previous message I attach here below some detailed images of the yards. These images were taken the same day of that message. 
 
The footropes of the yards will be correctly shaped soon. 
 
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Below: links to high resolution images . . (the last image shown above sistematically failed to upload so it is missing . . .) 
 
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VERY cool display idea!
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#97 Posted : 03 November 2014 17:08:23

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Friday August 5th, 2011 - The vertical display case . .
 
While the activities on the mast are progressing slowly, so slowly that there is no need to speak about them, I started to build the display case, based on a prototype from another modeler that inspired me some time ago.  
 
Honestly it is not the same, from an architectural point of view, but the idea is totally inherited from that prototype . .
 
The raw materials are the following elements, cut from my plans in a wood wholesaler:

  • ply wood with the external sides in mahogany, 15mm thickness, 2 pieces 450 x 130 mm;
  • same as above but 8mm thickness, 2 pieces 460 x 135 mm;
  • same 8mm. thinkness, 1 piece 960 x 460 mm;
  • 2 strips of ramin 15 x 30mm, 1000mm length.

 
First two items of the list will become the bottom and the roof of the case. They will be glued together in order to leave on three sides a ladder of 0,5mm. Next two images show these pieces assembled.
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070704.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070706.jpg

 
Later I covered the thickness of the ply with some veneer . .
 
03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070703.jpg



04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070705.jpg

 
In the next image one of the two elements completed . .
 
05 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070708.jpg

 
See you next time, kind regards, Jack.Aubrey
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Saturday August 6th, 2011 - again, the display case . .
 
The finishing of the base and the roof of the display case is now terminated. I have applied a coat of oil for wood and now I  leave it to dry. And I believe it is possible to see that the color of the wood has now its final appearance. Here follow some new images of the base and the roof. At this stage of the build they are still equal, later the base will change a little to install the elements that will keep inside the hull.
 
 
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02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070713.jpg


03 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070714.jpg


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See you next time, cheers, Jack.
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Sunday August 7th, 2011 - Always about display case
 
The work for the display case is progressing. Now the base and the roof are fixed to the background panel. Later I applied the two 15x30mm pieces with the main function to strengthen the structure and to provide support for the plexiglass. The next images show the whole case still under pressure
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070718.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070719.jpg

 
In this third image it is possible to see the base with the supports for the hull installed: the central groove where the keel will stay and the two lateral supports to keep the model in vertical position.
 
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04 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070721.jpg

 
When the glue will be totally dry I will apply also some screws to provide additional strength . . 
See you next time, Jack.Aubrey
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Monday August 8th, 2011
 
As soon as the glue was dry I did not resist: I have placed the case vertically and tryed to see the cross section inside: a matter of minutes and here are a couple of images to see a first preview of the whole . .
 
01 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070722.jpg


02 Cross%20Section%20Santisima%20Trinidad/P1070723.jpg

 
Now I have to decide how to finish the background panel; three options:

  1. oil for wood but the whole becomes too dark . . 
  2. a lighter colour, such as white, ivory, light blue . .
  3. fabric or a nautical maps . .

A few ideas to think about before sleeping.
 
Cheers, Jack.
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