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#21 Posted : 16 December 2015 16:30:42

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Nice looking work there James, I can fully relate to man flu as I have also been suffering the last couple days. I have found a miracle drug that works wonders and makes you feel so much better, shhhh don't tell your other half though LOL it's the Night and Day Nurse tablets.

Imuse photo bucket myself for photos but I'm guessing it's very similar, in photo bucket you use the 'direct link' to post between the img control codes in the forum post. The direct link will be just like a web address so when it is posted in the forum it will look like this (I've had to add the full stops otherwise it wouldn't show, you wouldn't have them)

[.img]http://photobucket.com/user/folderpicturein/picturename.jpg[./img]


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#22 Posted : 16 December 2015 17:46:00

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Martyn Ingram wrote:
BigGrin Hi James funny enough I like deck planking to . Looking good m8 are you going to fill the bow with balsa as it will pay dividends later on Cool Hope you get over the man flu soon

Rgd Martyn

Cheers Martyn
That was something I was debating with myself in my workshop, wife now thinks either
A) I am having an affair via phone, with another boat builder
B) I am losing the plot and will be getting me sectioned

Cheers

James


Mine used to be like that. Your always on your phone or the computer. Etc etc. LOL
Shes ok now shes glad of the peace and quiet. She has even bought me a boat for xmas so happy days.
Your doing great job on san fran. Your deck planking looks too notch.
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#23 Posted : 16 December 2015 21:34:49

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Thanks Dave for the photobucket info will help diary flow more naturely,
Thanks to everyone for comments
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#24 Posted : 17 December 2015 00:10:10

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Nice work to date James, coming along nicely....Cool Cool .. You'll find those balsa infills will be worth all your effort when it comes to planking....Cool Cool .. Keep up the good work,,,,,

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#25 Posted : 17 December 2015 16:37:20

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Borrowed most amazing tool from son, off to that DIY place to get one. Its called a Dremel


How long I hacked with chisels/planes/sandpaper many moonsBlushing , all done in 1/20th of the time still a little wary of it lest it eateth more than planned for it, not this excited since Scotland last qualified for the Round ball World Cup finals. Tackling stern infill's with some trepidation
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#26 Posted : 18 December 2015 08:27:34

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Got the hi speed toy, but out of things to pare down! Just packing & clamping stern spaces overnight for enthusiastic, but cautious, use of Dremel on stern packing tomorrow

Been awake since three A.M wanting to start electrical wood butchering, but can't work unless Pink Floyd/ELP/YES/King Crimson/ Tangerine Dream playing at volume max plus one

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#27 Posted : 18 December 2015 09:08:27

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BigGrin looking good James I am with you on the music trouble is I build in the kitchen so I have to use headphones so the wife doesn't hear it as she is not into thrash metal LOL

A little tip with balsa is if you line the grain vertically it is easier to carve Cool

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#28 Posted : 18 December 2015 13:06:08

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Had considered that Martyn, thought the extra strength gained by mixing the grain direction would enhance the "solidity" of the infill's at either end. More so now that I have the Dremel it chews it's relentless way through whatever. Having plenty of practice with various offcuts to get feel & RPM optimised before getting too close to anything which can't be stuck back together

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Moderately pleased with my infill, this whole project is one huge learning curveConfused , albeit a pleasurable oneMellow


Think I got carried away and removed too much infill..... but I have cleaned the phenomenal amount of dust created by balsa wood & over enthusiastic use of new Boy's Toy. ATMIT don't want another 2mm of dust!


Torn between workshop & Live European Rugby... and there are a couple of beers in the fridge..... dare I risk alcohol infused modelling later? Don't drink & Dremel?BigGrin
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#30 Posted : 15 January 2016 21:32:47

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Going to try to salvage using brackets and building balsa blocks to hold altogether, not best description future pics may help, any suggestion all welcome, off to lie down in dark room to calm down
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Photobucket is driving me insane, will post images once I can work out what the hell I am doing wrong

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#32 Posted : 15 January 2016 21:45:27

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Sorry to hear of the mishap. Everything is salvagable. Once you sort the pictures out sure we can advise you in some way.
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#33 Posted : 15 January 2016 22:18:04

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Think you may need to change your title, good luck with the repair hope you can save her.
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Photobucket is driving me insane, will post images once I can work out what the hell I am doing wrong


Hi it looks like you are trying to link to the album rather than the individual images
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#35 Posted : 16 January 2016 14:50:47

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Really sorry to hear there has been a problem. Am sure we can assist once we see and know the extent of the damage... Hope to see some detailed pics soon.....

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Going to try to salvage using brackets and building balsa blocks to hold altogether, not best description future pics may help, any suggestion all welcome, off to lie down in dark room to calm down
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#37 Posted : 16 January 2016 20:22:07

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Hi Spineman
I see what you mean now the pics show. If the pieces push together then like you said use a couple of l brackets and balsa blocks with clamps. It should then hold in place. As once the planks go on that will hold it aswell.
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#38 Posted : 16 January 2016 20:44:08

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It looks possible terrible when you have workeked so hard to get this far.

What you need to remember is that the false keel as its call is the frame worknto hold your planking which when in place will be like having a plaster cast on your leg.

So as already posted yo need to get that false keel back in place and it does look like it will slot together well.

You could then use a couple of bracing pieces either side of this mend.

Once your decking and planking are in place you will be fine.

Please don't get dis-heartened by this as you can pull this one back on track and just think of the satisfaction when you finish and look back.

Hope it all goes well for you - you have support from the lads and lasses on here so focus and go for it Love
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BigGrin Wow that is beaten up but I think it looks a lot worse than it is as Chris said as it has tags that are sticking out so it will help line it up and the blocks will then hold it together and once the planking is on that will strengthen the hull Cool
Good luck and if you need some more help then just shout ThumpUp

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#40 Posted : 16 January 2016 21:29:29

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Hi Spineman, this can most certainly be salvaged as it is not as bad as it may look. This is what I would do.

It is mostly a clean break on the false keel along the forward bulkhead.
Step one, cut a slot on that forward bulkhead from the bottom of the keel to underside of the deck. Cut the slot on both sides of the false keel at least 5mm wide and clean up any glue left on the keel.
Step 2, cut two blocks (one for either side) of 5mm ply and at least 60mm wide, block should stop at the bottom of the keel.
Step 3, glue the block into the slot you have created up to the mast support, clamp and allow to dry completely.
Step 4, then join the two halves together making sure everything lines up, glue, clamp and allow to dry.
Step 5, once happy glue and insert the block on the other side, clamp and allow to dry.
If necessary, you can also fit small blocks (10mm x 10mm but not balsa) either side of the bulkhead to ensure the bulkhead remains square to the keel.
Finally, sand any overhang of the 5mm ply blocks level with the bottom of the false keel.

You'll then have a strong joint and providing you have lined the keel up correctly then the joint should be strong enough to take the rigors of planking....

Hope this helps and good luck with the repair, done right and you'll never know the mishap happened...

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