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TRGRichie
#21 Posted : 06 April 2018 17:32:51

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Hi,

you chose to put the crew in camo? ( which of the german camo patterns is this?) did you have a historical reference for this?
I wasn't aware that crews of this nature were ever issued camo unifroms?

build looking great btw.

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#22 Posted : 06 April 2018 17:47:47

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Hi rich says in the instructions originally the uniform was field grey and white reversible ,but this was scrapped and changed to 3 colour camo reversible so it white on inside for winter.the inside of hood painted white as it would show with hood down .its the water pattern camo scheme.version I'm doing is 1944 .so it would have been the camo scheme by then.cheers Mick.

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Nice job on the camo painting Mick.Looks great!!

Carl

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#24 Posted : 06 April 2018 18:02:24

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mogwai wrote:
Hi rich says in the instructions originally the uniform was field grey and white reversible ,but this was scrapped and changed to 3 colour camo reversible so it white on inside for winter.the inside of hood painted white as it would show with hood down .its the water pattern camo scheme.version I'm doing is 1944 .so it would have been the camo scheme by then.cheers Mick.



Sumpfmuster 44
Also Known as Tan and Water 44
First Issue 1944
Used until 1945
Known items Helmet Cover, Reversible winter Parka, Overtrousers, Paratroopers
smock and bandoleers, Reversible smock with hood, Apron, Chemical
warfare suit, M1944 uniform.

Used By Army (Heer), Airforce (Luftwaffe), Paratroopers (Fallschirmjager)
This was a very widely used pattern. It is a further development of Sumpfmuster 43. The colours
are similar but the pattern is more diffused. The base colour is tan and the overprints are maroon
and dark green.

not sure crews of this nature were ever issued with this camo. I have a good friend that specialises in german uniforms, he will know for sure I can ask if you like?

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#25 Posted : 06 April 2018 18:14:38

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They look great Mick BigGrin what i would say is if its waffen ss they would always get new uniforms equipment first so its a real possability they could have as i did re-enacting the waffen ss for over 10 years and the scope for there uniforms is a lot wider than for the heer who were issued the splinter and tan and water Cool regards PhilCool
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#26 Posted : 06 April 2018 18:25:04

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Hi rich you got exactly the info me got on this uniform,I'm relying on tamiya research into this ,or they would not have put it in the instructions, but be interesting to see what your friend says ,cheers Mick.BigGrin
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tigerace wrote:
They look great Mick BigGrin what i would say is if its waffen ss they would always get new uniforms equipment first so its a real possability they could have as i did re-enacting the waffen ss for over 10 years and the scope for there uniforms is a lot wider than for the heer who were issued the splinter and tan and water Cool regards PhilCool


SS had reversible camo winter parka, but was in a dot pattern in 44,
Im just not sure they issued camo to artillery, but I'll ask my Freind who is a leading expert in such things, he will know for sure.


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#28 Posted : 07 April 2018 17:10:15

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mogwai wrote:
Hi rich you got exactly the info me got on this uniform,I'm relying on tamiya research into this ,or they would not have put it in the instructions, but be interesting to see what your friend says ,cheers Mick.BigGrin



How about some photo evidence BigGrin

2 pictures showing the crew in reversible camo - shot from the front does appear to be pattern 44 too - so its a big thumbs up from my expert in germany BigGrin
he did say its rather rare though and the most common was the grey.
hope this helps
Rich
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#29 Posted : 07 April 2018 17:25:26

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Hi rich thanks for pics ,and your time looking into this,just glad the camo ok .cheers Mick.Blink
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#30 Posted : 07 April 2018 18:33:00

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mogwai wrote:
Hi rich thanks for pics ,and your time looking into this,just glad the camo ok .cheers Mick.Blink


Was a pleasure mate,
I spend a lot of my time colourising ww2 images, I have a few Facebook pages devoted to it, so I would have put money on them not having that camo, even my german expert friend was surprised to find they did, like he said quite rare, but it is ok to paint them like that :)

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#31 Posted : 08 April 2018 09:39:36

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loving the Camo. build looking great

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#32 Posted : 14 April 2018 13:10:38

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Hi thanks to all who looked in and left comments much appreciated, unfortunately my camera on phone went up it,and by time got it fixed I'd finished this,so sorry it's lousy diary, all I can say is this is a great kit with no fit issues at all, and a pleasure to make. Cheers mick BigGrin
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